
Rowan Williams has written his long-awaited "
Advent Letter" where he outlines the process he believes the Anglican Communion should follow. It has sparked a lot of discussion
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here. But this morning, as we were doing some Christmas decorating, we suddenly remembered the "talk" Katharine Jefferts Schori, Presiding Bishop of The Episcopal Bishop, gave to her staff when she returned from the historical
Dar es Salaam Primates Meeting earlier this year.
If we listen to what she says to her staff very carefully, and then read the Archbishop of Canterbury's
letter again, it casts an important light on what we - especially as laity in the Church - should consider regarding the process Rowan Williams lays out in his letter. She takes the long-view and talks about the mission of The Episcopal Church. Please listen very very carefully, and very prayerfully. Note that Rowan's process would indeed help the Episcopal Church carry out the mission that Bishop Schori outlines in her talk.
Here it is. Please, take the time to listen to what she has to say.
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I have great difficulty listening to this. Her voice totally CREEPS ME OUT.
Interesting. So delay, delay and delay again as a strategy. And we'll dialogue until you surrender.
I said long ago that the Current Unpleasantness had early on become a war of attrition. At this point, we orthodox are left foraging for sustenance, while the ersatz progressives hold the resources. Folks, the Anglican Communion as currently constituted with Canterbury in the lead and TEC pulling the levers behind the curtain is as a whitewashed tomb. Looks good on the outside, but inside... Don't even look. It will curl your hair.
BB:
Wow, take a breath for a moment, please. Breathe in, breathe out.
Before suggesting you should add to this post, I would like to suggest to you another line of analysis.
You could also consider how theology informs this notion of "process". One reason I believe process is seen as such an important concept is that theologically the leadership of the Episcopal Church has largely taken over the views of Process Theology.
That's a view that combines a critique of the Bible as outdated and culturally coniditoned, an evolutionary view of God as growing more forgiving and graceful since those unpleasant times back in the Old Testament, and a healthy dose of Rogerian and Jungian psychology (the importance of becoming who you are without interference from external sources of authority such as religious traditions, doctrines, scriptures). It's been a major force in the church for the last 80years or so ... and interesting to trace the church's reaction to it in people like Bishop Gore, CS Lewis and Chesterton to name a few ... Indeed, there's a great old quote from Bishop Spong talking about his connection to General Seminary(where Norman Pittenger taught theology before moving across the pond to come out of the closet and offer us a new theology of sexuality). Spong talks about the prevailing theological understanding of Process Theology taught there and how, even if other Church leaders do not recognize it, that teaching was having a great influence over the direction of the whole church. It's true in many ways ... As a graduate of GTS I can say it was taught to me as Gospel truth along with the social concerns of Liberation Theology, another 20th Century like Process Theology which I'll bet does not last long in the life of the universal church.
With so much of God, truth, revelation, moral behavior, and the rest steadily evolving, it's no wonder we should need to change our views ... especially about how we work together. If God himself (herself?) is in a continually unfolding process (that should sound like the last PB you know) then why should the church not focus on its process too? Wanting things too tidy is ungodly in this scheme. At least I've often been told that by professors and bishops alike over the last 30 years.
Which raises a question, you know. As a self-proclaimed ENFP one wonders why you don't enjoy a bit more of the unsettled nature of things. You're starting to sound more like a J.
From your friendly neighborhood ISFJ theologian in Kingstowne.
That is a very good question, Roger.
Here's my guess - this "process" that is outlined by the Archbishop of Canterbury and we hear about from Katharine Jefferts Schori in her talk to her staff - it's not "open." I am rebelling quite strongly because it's "marketed" as being open-ended, but it really isn't. You can see by how those who employ "Process" as a solution are angry when it doesn't turn out the way the organizers want. In other words, it's created with the end in mind.
In fact, that's one of the things that has disappointed me about what J.K. Rowling has said about writing her series. She knew exactly how it was all going to end up and that's where it ended up. She had it all planned. So what she's saying is that it was all determined (except she had planned Arthur Weasley's death and changed her mind about that - but he doesn't really have much to do after Book V anyway - as opposed to Molly Weasley, who play a crucial role).
What that means to me is that the creative-part is straightjacketed. There are no real surprises - no room for the Holy Spirit to surprise us. It's all pre-planned, all determined.
That's what I see in Rowan's letter. It sounds like it's something that should be filled with possibilities - but it really isn't. And I find that troubling. It's a ruse, a carrot that appeals to the novices in politics. It seems to me that is what a letter like his does - it will not appeal to any who have been in the trenches for a while. It lacks credibility.
And it lacks leadership. He's very very good a providing an overview of the situation. I appreciate that part of his letter very much. But we don't need that. It's obvious and it's just good to see that he's not an idiot. At least not on his observations.
But he starts to act like a novice when it comes to politics. People can sound very good in the primaries, but when the politics actually begins they often get eaten up and spit out until they become a trivia question on a game show. It's hard for me to tell though whether Rowan is serious about yet another self-appointed sub-group (what happened to all the others) or if he honestly doesn't know what else to do.
I do think it is very interesting - and frankly surprising - that he calls the Bishop of New Hampshire "Gene Robinson" and not "Bishop Robinson" or even the "Bishop of New Hampshire." He seems to not recognize that Gene Robinson is a bishop. That's huge for the Episcopal Church. That they seem lacsidaisical in their response (you would think they would all pull out of Lambeth, wouldn't you?). It's the principle of the thing. Indeed, it is the principle of the thing.
That Ian Douglass doesn't do that but reserves comment and still looks forward to plotting Lambeth is so interesting to me. Either there are many more splits in the Episcopal leadership than we are aware, or there is confidence that the "process" - the "Lambeth process" is all ready determined. Their confidence must come from somewhere. We'll see how they respond to Ruth Gledhill's article, for example, at the London Times.
But it seems to me that revelations like this one are more focused on splitting the orthodox - "see, you can work with us - just keep coming to our meetings and we'll just keep this up and then come to more meetings and you'll hear what you want to hear and come to even more meetings and we'll just go on and on and on ..." But will it get solved? Today I don't think so.
From a creative point of view - one that's filled with prayer and good humor - I take your point, Roger. There should always be a surprise, the "x" factor, the work of the Holy Spirit, that answered phone call, that song on the radio, something that happens that tilts things into a different direction, or as Bob sings these days, those things that are blowin' in the wind.
God bless you.
bb
BB:
Actually I'm fine with things being more fixed and less blowin' in the winds of all this process. I'm a church planter for whom process is not a big value ... we have to keep running fast enough to make things happen. As one fellow said Church planters work from the dictum "Ready, Fire, Aim." I'm also a fan of Aquinas. I am hard pressed to name a good theology book written after 1950. All that's to say I have no problem with orthodox belief, so long as we are helping those who haven't gotten there yet to make the leap and join us.
The idea that the process is fixed is something I've written about before. I think you are right about a lot of this. (Am still thinking through the MAD ABC stuff ...) Anyway, James Fowler gave us a way of looking at belief in a book called Stages of Faith. He shows conclusively that what people say they believe does not tell you as much about them as learning how they believe. Yeah, I know, it sounds like process again ... but it makes great sense when you listen to TEC leaders. They use happy words (inclusive, loving, Gospel, etc) but the way they use them does not match up. I think that's what you have been pointing to for some time now ...
In Folwer's work, a person with Stage 5 faith is able to hold opposites together and value paradoxes, while still holding to what is seen as a personal foundation of belief. (Example: ABC William Temple). You can use all the same words, but if you use them while at the same time push people into generalized groups of us and them, and demonize those who hold other positions, you are at Stage 3. (BTW Fowler would never want you to think of higher stages as more holy but as different "languages" of faith perhaps). Stage 3 is also a time when your identity is tied most closley to your group, and you care more about living up to the expectations of your social group than you do about other things. Morality is based on the group's common values. Indeed, a desire to preserve your social group is very important, as is being unable to clearly understand the perspective of those who are different.
In any case, when you listen for how the PB believes and not just to her vocabulary, you see she is in a very different place than someone else who might use the same vocabulary. For her to talk about being inclusive, but be unable to live with the insitutional paradox of departing parishes shows the way she uses the word. And though she talks about loving, she has never behaved in a loving way to that "tiny minority" who disagree. Such actions would be common for someone with a different stage of faith.
OK, the end effect: There is a disconnect between the words used and the way the leaders of TEC believe. Read Susan Russell, Michael Hopkins, the PB, Chane, et.al., even Bishop Lee's public statements, and you'll get this very clear dissonance (if there can be such a paradox). They use the same words I use but they use them in a very different way.
So ... I've been giving as lot of thought to how we can use Fowler's paradigm as a way to help those who speak these different languages of faith to meet in a common place. We work hard at that on a parish level where I live. It allows my parish to host people across a very wide spectrum of "ways" of believeing. But I'm having a time of it coming up with a way to help those who use the happy language of "inclusion, love and gospel" see that their actions do not match their stated beliefs.
I guess if I could do that I could live at Lambeth Palace and watch Simpsons every day at 6:00
Blessing and best to you sis.
I don't think Fowler's stages will help here at all.
To put it bluntly - people (like the PB, or Akinola, or anyone) won't like to be told "youre at stage 3 but I'm at stage 5"... although frankly I find your characterisation of the ABC & PB quite accurate :-)
Actually I think there are two interesting observations about "process" that I haven't see elsewhere.
First, ECUSA's relation to this "process" is rather more marginal than elsewhere. "Bishop" Anderson misses the point when he says "ECUSA is being accepted without being asked to repent". Rather, for the first time on a communion-wide basis, one body is not meeting to decided whether or not ECUSA needs to repent, or whether it has repented enough: rather the meetings are in the context of a significant part of the commnion have decided that ECUSA has not repented, and to work out what should happen next.
Second, remember Nottingham! Greg Griffin's lsit of the meetings and process so far leaves out Nottingham (as do many of the US reports).
Nottingham was the last Primates meeting - where the Global South took charge of the agenda, raised a motion from the floor, and very very nearly had both ECUSA and Canada removed from the communion on that day. Were the Global South to attend Lambeth, the outcome of such a vote would not be in doubt.
But - of course- as the Road to Lambeth says - the Global South will not be at Lambeth, because ECUSA will be there and because their US bishops will not be there.
ahh, but now you know I'm sinner you'll probalby chop all this...
I think Anon has it correct:"the Current Unpleasantness had early on become a war of attrition."
Words do have power and I've seen recently where some words stirred up lots of discussion and pondering, others to build up one at the expense of others to farther draw division.
We are supposed to be people of the ear who listen to the Word of God instead of by sight of what is pleasing in our own eyes. Creation came into being by the words spoken by the Creator.
However, let your 'yes' be 'yes' and your 'no' be 'no' else we can easily move into sin. Unfortunately, I've concluded Episcopalians (maybe CoE as well) have a culture where the ability to use words to move an agenda is considered the most desirable attribute. I think that is important when looking at another's words, especially in the context of Anglicanism, to remember what seems to be the person's agenda then how do these words fit into that agenda and what sales point is attempting to be made.
ABC has always been primarily about 'saving the union' and very much will do anything including the 'sub-committee report' of JSC report to do it or he'll suddenly flip-flop if that would advance his ends. Tragically, I think it's much like the Lincoln letter early in the war, where emancipation was placed secondary to saving the union, thus a few more years of hardship were required cemented God's purposes .
PB desires two fold items, first is the culmination of WO and secondarily is GLTB issues which she views is a civil right. So while some are impatient as the timescale is longer from the "Philadelphia 11" to AC acceptance, she is desiring to use that path. (NOTE: there are at least five other threads talking theology of WO, not my intent to draw this thread off-topic, so please join one those to discuss that topic, but all should remember how we moved from illegal ordination to full acceptance in the AC for her strategy seems match it in these innovations).
I read the Advent letter as one offering a false hope that action will be taken. Yet, I seriously doubt the ABC is willing to take action one way or the other and events will continue to overtake the Communion.
Here words seem do very little.
Surely Baby Blue, you know that the process at Lambeth 1988 was a great failure in leadership on behalf of the chair?
That no responsible chair would have let it happen?
Is it not very cheap of you to pretend otherwise?
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