
I am have press credentials stateside for the meeting of the Anglican Consultative Council now underway in Jamaica.
Right, they are explaining the difference between the ACO and the ACC. Gregory Cameron is speaking. He is explain how there is a shift to the ACC has become the second instrument of the Anglican Communion. The are discussing procedural issues, where people are going on Sunday and procedural questions about the draft resolutions (there's still only one draft of the Anglican Covenant Resolution and the Windsor Continuation Group Resolution).
(NOTE: One of the major issues that has come up this week with the Windsor Continuation Group Resolution is what happened the Fourth Moritoria? It's in the Windsor Continuation Group's Report but is missing from their resolution. We'll see later that when asked about where it went, Gregory Cameron said he didn't know.)
Resolutions are being highlighted about what the ACC delegates are comfortable with and uncomfortable with but are they are exact resolutions as Monday and Tuesday.
Bishop Gregory Cameron is making a statement.
The Windsor Continuation group has now finished its work. It was setup by Archbishop Rowan during a Joint Standing Committee and the House of Bishops of The Episcopal Church in New Orleans (2007). How could it be carried forth - looking toward the future. Cameron is now reminding people what Rowan Williams said when the Windsor Continuation Group was formed.
Two sets of recommendations - listening process and the moratoria should continue and look at establishing a mechanism in the communion to bring their issues of life in the communion.
ACNA - He's now talking about that.
How does the Anglican Communion make a decision that sticks? Cameron says.
Q&A
Episcopal News Service: The Communion has gone through crises in the past and in those situations we didn't have to have a Covenant or procedures, why is this different?
For each generation responses to the challenges it faces. It has been particularly acute for the Episcopalians because they are no longer sure they can recognize Christian discipleship in their local churches. Rethink the basics, as in the Anglican Covenant. Question about the authority of the Anglican Communion. (Can we make a decision that sticks?)
Is there damage to the communion if a church acts in a way impairs the communion - the Covenant takes it further, ranging from fairly mild rebuke to actual booting them out of the communion (it's a bit challenging to hear, but I think that's what Cameron said).
Section IV in the Covenant: The Windsor Continuation Group and the Anglican Covenant mesh together, we need to have ways to respond as a communion.
Question on the Episcopal Litigation underway - are you powerless to exercise any authority to stop this? Millions of dollars on litigation and hurting the church - what do you think of these laity - there's got to be something.
Cameron is going over the
three moratoria - consecration, blessings, and borders. Cameron seems to agree that it would be better to do this outside the courts. Shouldn't seek to recover property and then something about the parishes. Cameron said that the two sides couldn't agree on what's going on.
Pastoral Visitors as Honest Brokers.
Paragraph 34 question - Fourth Moritoria (page 7 and page 10)
Why is it that Continuation Report recommendation makes no direct mention of the fourth moratoria to see the end of litigation.
"I don't know," said Cameron.
Cameron said we tried to step in the Panel of Reference - the two parties wouldn't agree on the facts. This is not true, as in the case of Church of the Redeemer in Jacksonville, FL and in the Diocese of Ft. Worth.
"We should try to see a restraint of litigation," said Cameron. He would like to see restraint from both sides. He sympathized with those who have been sued.
The parishes continue to express willingness to take part in conversation, said Chris.
Draft Covenant: Cameron mentions the Covenant again. He refers attention to Rowan's Pastoral Visitors.
The press officer ends it. End of Press Conference.
NOTE: Here is the line from the
Windsor Continuation Group's Official Report to the Anglican Consultative Council:
34. One of the aggravating factors in these circumstances has been the fact that a fourth moratorium requested by the unanimous voice of the Primates at Dar es Salaam in 2007 - to see the end of litigation - has also been ignored.
Here's what the Resolution now before the ACC says:
47. We recommend that the request for the moratoria expressed in Windsor/Dromantine be maintained in the life of the Communion, and that urgent conversations are facilitated with those Provinces where the application of the moratoria gives rise for concern.
Note that they go back to the Dramantine Communique in 2005, not to the most recent Dar es Salaam Communique in 2008 and they give no reason for this. When asked at today's press conference why the Fourth Moritoria has suddenly and inexplicitly disappeared, Bishop Cameron said, "I don't know."
UPDATE: Have just learned that when Bishop Schori introduced herself to present her resolution on "Peace-Making Dialogues," it's reported that she made it quite clear how many countries and territories she's the primate of and listed them in case anyone forgot. So she's the primate of Columbia, and she's the primate of the Dominican Republic, and of Ecuador, and Europe (the American parts, whatever that is), and Haiti, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Taiwan, and Venezuela. It's reported that, well, unfortunately, it came across to some as an incredible diplomatic faux pas and personal challenge to the Archbishop of Canterbury. So how many countries does he have?
UPDATE: Here is the audio of
today's press conference -
listen very carefully.
12 comments:
What a puffed up ego she has. Like some circuit rider boasting he was rector of six congregations to a pastor of one church that is twice the size of all six of his put together.
Primate of the YAC....Yankee Anglican Communion.
She's also Dean of the Good Shepherd School of Theology of Corvallis. You orthodites keep forgetting that.
Just as long as she's not my primate, she can call herself anything she wants...
The American parts of Europe means all the US military chaplains stationed there. So she could probably have included Japan, Guam, Iraq, Afghanistan - anyplace there is a US military Episcopal chaplain stationed. In other words: almost the entire world!!!!!!
We sort of ran into this when two children were to be confirmed while stationed overseas - which Bishop would come. We wanted the American bishop who as a priest baptized our oldest. The chaplain wanted his bishop so (he said) his "numbers" would look better when he retired from the military. We discussed the local bishop who wasn't American. To be honest, I no longer remember who it was, just that it wasn't any of those! It was someone else who showed up from the USA.
It is very hard to believe that St Asaph does not know what became of the 4th moratorium. He attends and as far as I can make out directs on behalf of his master all of the bodies and committees: CDG, WCG, and is at the JSC.
I don't believe a word of it if this is correctly reported.
Perhaps PB Jefferts-Schori simply wanted to acknowledge the churches in other countries that are under her jurisdiction. Who reported that she made a diplomatic faux pas? The passive tense is quite convenient at times. "It's reported...."
Moritoria = plural
Moritorium = singular
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I saw this at Lambeth as well - there is a cultural and social split between the TEC Americans and the British Commonwealth about social decorum. Often, the Americans act in ways in these Anglican social settings that are quite simply astonishing.
That being said, despite our rather grave differences, it seems to be more often cultural, not political. In other words, the Americans don't know the rules.
Or, is that the Americans do know the rules, but don't care?
That is the question.
Sorry about the moritoria/moritorium - the spell checker doesn't recognize either and I was wrestling with them during the live blogging. Thanks for the tutorial, ettu - much appreciated! ;-)
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But you didn't answer my question, Baby Blue. Who reported?
You want me to tell you my sources? Hmmm ... that's an interesting question. I guess since I'm not saying you can say, "BabyBlue's alleged sources say ..." If you are skeptical, that's okay. It's a very good source.
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BB, knowing sources is good, but I'll let that go. What you report sounds more like an opinion than a fact. Perhaps there are differing opinions?
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