tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post6805706580590870214..comments2024-03-27T08:46:54.369-04:00Comments on BabyBlueOnline: London Telegraph: The first openly lesbian bishop in the Anglican church will be consecrated today in California, deepening divisionsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-28120019841404815542010-05-17T09:57:16.039-04:002010-05-17T09:57:16.039-04:00I live in the USA..I think it is sad
that the Epi...I live in the USA..I think it is sad <br />that the Episcopal Church is determined to have their way in this matter over objections in the Anglican Church outside the USA. <br />I am just an old man who wonders where<br />all this will end.Alexandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-6285437604981666642010-05-17T01:13:19.050-04:002010-05-17T01:13:19.050-04:00Anam Cara -
Thanks for your remarks.
And you are...Anam Cara -<br /><br />Thanks for your remarks.<br /><br />And you are right about the numbers - the statement about numbers talks about "churches" - "Orthodox Christians" aren't counted together in such numbers, since they belong to a number of different world bodies, unlike the Anglican Communion.<br /><br />However, to be fair, the word used is "churches" - for simplicity's sake, so we don't have to describe exactly what a "Communion" is - but many will say, the Anglican Communion is not itself a church, but a union of churches. So if we're strict, even though the Anglican Communion is a large worldwide body, it isn't a church, so it also doesn't deserve to be listed as "number two."<br /><br />If it helps -<br /><br />This was not posted to laud the Communion in any way, or to show up other churches. Rather, it was posted to show other Christians, like yourself, the depth of this crisis. Since the Anglican Communion is so large - it is a terrible crisis for all of Christianity, and what we are doing to the body of Christ is indeed reprehensible.<br /><br />I encourage some to consider the Orthodox Church. I don't wish you to encourage anyone to join an Anglican congregation - but please think and pray about what you can do to help minimize the scope of the damage. I'd suggest that one thing you can do is help faithful Anglicans who are willing to look these problems in the face, name them for what they are, and address them in love and truth. You may well find congregations like this which you can help in collaborative ministry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-30069912484027089882010-05-16T13:24:00.042-04:002010-05-16T13:24:00.042-04:00A sad day in Anglicanville, with “mighty Kathy” at...A sad day in Anglicanville, with “mighty Kathy” at the bat,<br />Big Bad John on her coat tails, but his sermon fell flat!<br />Out of the bottle popped Genie, schismatic who began<br />TEC journey into darkness, contraposed to God’s plan.<br /><br />Barbie Harris?! Get real. Bonnie & Fred in this crime?<br />Give up, you old fogies, you’re all way past your prime!<br />Others who come later, will have to clean up your mess,<br />If anything’s left of litigious “LBGT agenda’s” superficial success.<br /><br />Now be gone Bruno, Robinson, Glasspool, others like Schori,<br />You’ve sealed the sorry last phase of TEC’s once grand story;<br />From your arrogant perch of power, you thought your way was best,<br />Never mind God, Christ, Bible, Cantaur, “hell with the rest.”<br /><br />You’re not worthy to be leaders, bishops, priests, even lay,<br />You won’t have my support! There’s one less you’ll lead astray!<br />You’re anathemaic heretics, and not very interesting ones, at that,<br />You could use more pizzazz; abortive faith you begat! <br /><br />Like the Damnation of Faust, you sold your soul to what’s evil,<br />Pacts with titanic sin, foisted on TEC dire upheaval;<br />Your legacies? We’ll forget, with your BS so far-flung,<br />But it’s you who will end up in Gehenna’s trash dung!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-1576171933167891022010-05-16T07:54:00.131-04:002010-05-16T07:54:00.131-04:00watch the ABC try to get another 7 years of delayi...watch the ABC try to get another 7 years of delaying any action against revisionists' unilateral actions....... watch the GS (50m Anglicans) move on.....they have work to do.....too much time wastd with tiny, declining groups of revisionsts.<br /><br />Church of Wales will support TEC....it is so popular in Wales that it has so few clergy joining that in the next decade, they will see a quarter of clergy retire.....but that is ok, nobody goes in Wales to hear about ubuntu etc etc <br /><br />ACNA - be faithful, carry on with your work.... in an hundred years, the fruit of your work will be clear (and the history will be told of how PECUSA became TEC and became extinct)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-46887365266522526542010-05-16T07:32:35.263-04:002010-05-16T07:32:35.263-04:00From the Telegraph:
"A communiqué issued by ...From the Telegraph:<br /><br />"A communiqué issued by the Global South – Anglican provinces in the developing world – has called on the Episcopal Church to express “genuine repentance” for its “defiance” in the consecration."<br /><br />Don't hold your breath, Global South.<br /><br />And from the BBC:<br /><br />"Our correspondent says the latest ordination is likely to accelerate the gradual marginalisation of the Episcopal Church within a two-tier Communion and increase tensions between Anglicans elsewhere."<br /><br />Note the term "gradual marginalisation." Wonder how long it will actually take - how many years will Anglicans put up with this part of the "Anglican Communion"<br /><br />From Anglicans and Unity<br />another response:<br /><br />“We are no longer a body that needs worry about schism; we ourselves have become a schism within the church catholic.”<br /><br />Actually, Anglicanism has always been a schism within the catholic church. You must remember that it is a church founded because a king wanted a divorce. And the Roman Catholic Church, from which the Anglicans parted company, was itself a schism from what was then the Christian Church, now called the Eastern Orthodox.<br /><br />Perhaps it is getting to be time to, like the prodigal son, begin thinking about returning home. You already love to use the term "orthodox." Why don't you just commit wholeheartedly and go there?<br /><br />And from the “About” page of the Anglican Ecumenical Society (above post - "Anglicans and Unity"):<br /><br />"The Anglican Communion is very large Communion – one of the largest of the world churches, second only to the Roman Catholic Church in numbers. What goes on in our Communion is being watched closely by leaders in other denominations which have similar problems, albeit in less advanced turbulence. How our Communion comes through this crisis will have an enormous impact on Christianity in the world at large."<br /><br />They have the numbers wrong:<br /><br />Based on the numbers of adherents, Orthodoxy is the second largest Christian communion in the world after the Roman Catholic Church.[12] The most common estimates of the number of Orthodox Christians worldwide is approximately 300 million [13].<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Church<br /><br />With approximately 70–80 million members, the Anglican Communion is the third largest Christian communion in the world, after the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Churches.<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican_Communion<br /><br />Major Traditional Branches of Christianity<br />(mid-1995; source: Encyclopedia Britannica)<br />Branch Number of Adherents<br />Catholic 968,000,000<br />Protestant 395,867,000<br />Other Christians 275,583,000<br />Orthodox 217,948,000<br />Anglicans 70,530,000<br />http://www.adherents.com/adh_branches.html#ChristianityAnam Carahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960986859370967282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-25730816151179303702010-05-16T04:47:09.025-04:002010-05-16T04:47:09.025-04:00Anglicans and Unity
another response<a href="http://anglicanecumenicalsociety.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/301/" rel="nofollow">Anglicans and Unity</a><br />another responseWilfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-33443085132951619302010-05-15T23:13:47.344-04:002010-05-15T23:13:47.344-04:00Other things will not change as well. The Episcop...Other things will not change as well. The Episcopal Church will continue its precipitous demographic decline and parishes will close across the country. It will become an even more urban, liberal, progressive niche market being blown about by whatever trendy thing happens to blow out of academia. In the end, they will remain irrelevant. Even by progressive terms, they are behind the times.rknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-322024428368225052010-05-15T22:36:13.253-04:002010-05-15T22:36:13.253-04:00Wow. You're all finally catchin' on.Wow. You're all finally catchin' on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-76748019922635016912010-05-15T20:38:17.378-04:002010-05-15T20:38:17.378-04:00Alas and alack.Alas and alack.Dale Matsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12975212053636312471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-72675663050314015112010-05-15T18:02:50.896-04:002010-05-15T18:02:50.896-04:00I am afraid that you are far too correct about all...I am afraid that you are far too correct about all of that.Anam Carahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960986859370967282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-86054912052880959262010-05-15T12:09:51.104-04:002010-05-15T12:09:51.104-04:00My predictions for today are that the Sun will ris...My predictions for today are that the Sun will rise and set and there will be no formal split in the so-called Anglican Communion. The Continuing Episcopalians will get their knickers in a knot and not a damned thing will change.RMBrutonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15017576806723146013noreply@blogger.com