tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post3995865403763397910..comments2024-03-27T08:46:54.369-04:00Comments on BabyBlueOnline: From the Bishop of Egypt's Address to the House of Bishops "For the first time in centuries, the fabric of our Communion is torn ..."Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-51037069580234118362007-09-21T23:39:00.000-04:002007-09-21T23:39:00.000-04:00We do know all about the man who gave this extraor...We do know all about the man who gave this extraordinary address to the House of Bishops today, don't we?<BR/><BR/>Tinmah, please be sensitive with your words in the Cafe. Ironically, your use of the word "Queer" is exclusive by its very nature. We would appreciate if you would not refer to people - even if you are referring to yourself - as Queer. You are welcome at the cafe, but remember, we do not throw the cream pies at one another (though you are free to toss the pancakes). If you want to make the point that we are exclusive, it might behoove you to not engage in exclusive behavior and thereby weaken your own point. Such things do cause pie throwing and those who have been visiting the cafe knows what happens when the pies start flying.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.<BR/><BR/>bbAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-1711157081395763352007-09-21T22:55:00.000-04:002007-09-21T22:55:00.000-04:00I don't regard any of you (including Anis) as Ort...I don't regard any of you (including Anis) as Orthodox. I consider you to be, and I mean this in love, exclusive and literalistic, selective in your scriptural interpretation and ignorant of the realities of homosexuality. This is the same saw we have been getting for the past few years on this whole subject (yawn) it seems like the PB has nothing new to say to us in his address. How would you feel if you were gay?? The last shall be first?? Pshaw. Not if they are queer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-44047884920119999812007-09-21T22:46:00.000-04:002007-09-21T22:46:00.000-04:00As a gay man and faithful Episcopalian my heart br...As a gay man and faithful Episcopalian my heart breaks because so many view me, my brothers and sisters, as a reason to break up the communion.<BR/>I just wonder...fifty years ago...most of these bishops would not have been able to sit down at the table with most of the white male leadership of the Anglican communion...at that point, they too were outsiders by reason of their birth....the Jesus I know must be crying as we speak...the one who hung out with tax collectors and prostitues instead of the bigoted religious leaders of his day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-27550873004801918422007-09-21T14:39:00.000-04:002007-09-21T14:39:00.000-04:00Mary, you are a gift to us all and your blogging i...Mary, you are a gift to us all and your blogging is amazing! WOW WOW WOW and Hallelujah!<BR/><BR/>It is worth everything just to have orthodox bloggers there getting this text out. And Amen to those who say it is an answer to prayer and a wonderful act of God to have these words spoken to our bishops.<BR/><BR/>Over at T19, after elfgirl posted your link here to ++Mouneer, Kendall+ posted a statement by +Marc Andrus. The contrast could not be more shocking.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and by the way, what ++Mouneer says about ECUSA's actions damaging Christian witness in Muslim lands is true. One of the main reasons I'm now so active in the Anglican blogging world is because a local believer, former Muslim, where I work was shocked and horrified in Aug 2003 to read the news about VGR. He and others here have now faced accusations that Xians promote homosexuality. It has damaged the church's witness. He pleaded with me to take a stand, so I did. AND he pleaded with me to get my church and pastor to take a stand. (Little did he know...! LOL. He didn't need to be worried on that score given that I share a church home with our fearless BabyBlue!!!)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07776057299013988717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-62004344554926758862007-09-21T13:48:00.000-04:002007-09-21T13:48:00.000-04:00Thanks for posting this!Thanks for posting this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-87718558559372843502007-09-21T13:29:00.000-04:002007-09-21T13:29:00.000-04:00Read these words alongside those of the other bish...Read these words alongside those of the other bishops meeting ... Bruno, Chane, Alexander, Schori, Lee ... and you get an amazing sense of respect for the Bishop of Egypt. What a sense of grace and charity in his words. Oh that we had this type of leadership in our churches.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-89095706362414106652007-09-21T13:09:00.000-04:002007-09-21T13:09:00.000-04:00Amen!Amen!Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00261766465382455822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-20168891959142851212007-09-21T13:05:00.000-04:002007-09-21T13:05:00.000-04:00"My friends, if you really believe that the truth ..."My friends, if you really believe that the truth revealed to you is different from that shown to the rest of the Communion, then you need to uphold that claim with boldness even at the risk of losing unity.”<BR/><BR/>Ha! A call to be authentic and live with integrity. I rather doubt that it will be read as a call to authenticity; rather it will be proclaimed as evidence of a threat. Surely the Archbishop will be denounced as a hater.<BR/><BR/>Almighty and ever-living God you soften the hard earth with a gentle rain such that the earth bears fruit for the rest of your creation. Send your Spirit upon the auditors gathered that your creatures might also bear fruit according to your word. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God forever and ever.<BR/>Amen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-86784630140616632212007-09-21T12:56:00.000-04:002007-09-21T12:56:00.000-04:00I'm in tears reading this ... the Lord has been so...I'm in tears reading this ... the Lord has been so kind to raise one up to speak truth in front of these bishops.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00261766465382455822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-80102034585789141362007-09-21T12:40:00.000-04:002007-09-21T12:40:00.000-04:00Your reporting is so much appreciated by those of ...Your reporting is so much appreciated by those of us who cannot attend.<BR/><BR/>If that tropical depression hits you today or tomorrow we have the consolation that there was at least one act of God at this gathering.The Gathering in Granburyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629260095372751713noreply@blogger.com