tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post1434545717491068703..comments2024-03-27T08:46:54.369-04:00Comments on BabyBlueOnline: Virginia Episcopalian: Diocese of Virginia takes out $2 million "line of credit" to pursue lawsuits; pledges fall short of expectationsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-48631498234575541162008-01-10T19:39:00.000-05:002008-01-10T19:39:00.000-05:00Glee? Alas, the only glee we can think of that bur...Glee? <BR/><BR/>Alas, the only glee we can think of that bursts out of the doors of this cafe from time to time is when Bob Dylan comes to town or when Jo Rowling writes another book. <BR/><BR/>Thank God He collects our tears in bottles for there have been many.<BR/><BR/>bbAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-34634044515799688592008-01-10T16:27:00.000-05:002008-01-10T16:27:00.000-05:00You and your readers glee at the perceived distres...You and your readers glee at the perceived distress of a church is repugnant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-43070440157006853262008-01-06T18:57:00.000-05:002008-01-06T18:57:00.000-05:00I wonder, next week, if someone at the Dio of VA c...I wonder, next week, if someone at the Dio of VA convention will ask about the difference between "accessed" and "spent"?<BR/><BR/>We wonders, yes we does Precious, if some in the diocese are thinking, "Well, if the New Sheriff in Town feels so [modifier] strongly, 815 can [stronger modifier] pay the bill."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-7476268930684900442008-01-06T15:56:00.000-05:002008-01-06T15:56:00.000-05:00ThanksThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-12709662844646849572008-01-05T22:41:00.000-05:002008-01-05T22:41:00.000-05:00I believe the 2006 reports didn't appear on the na...I believe the 2006 reports didn't appear on the national website until about September or October. Churches have until spring to file them and then there's summer vacation. The church statistical guru is a good guy who takes this seriously and isn't afraid to include VGR in the reasons for TEC's continuing decline.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-17658460838322579412008-01-05T12:15:00.000-05:002008-01-05T12:15:00.000-05:00So, RSchllnbrg, you're saying they've become "unpe...So, RSchllnbrg, you're saying they've become "unpersons?"<BR/>It will be interesting to see how much longer they remain listed at the <A HREF="http://12.0.101.92/" REL="nofollow">CHARTS</A> site. (Another little webpage that the church doesn't want people visiting.) How long after Parochial Reports are filed before those stats are updated? Anyone know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-67317525119332721322008-01-04T21:13:00.000-05:002008-01-04T21:13:00.000-05:00OK, just curious, but wouldn't the judge in the le...OK, just curious, but wouldn't the judge in the legal case find it of interest that the Diocese seems to be acknowledging the departure of those parishes? Isn't that the foundation of the suit, that there is a split and they have left? I hope someone is bringing it to the attention of the judge that the Diocese seems to be acknowledging the split.... <BR/><BR/>Tom B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-54054130532850828372008-01-04T19:14:00.000-05:002008-01-04T19:14:00.000-05:00OK folks, just go the Diocesan mailing today from ...OK folks, just go the Diocesan mailing today from Richmond. It included last year’s Diocesan Council report for the Diocese of Virginia on a handy little CD. We’re received these before. One interesting thing though in this year’s offering ... in the section that lists parish records for each church in the diocese for 2007 (info on number of services, baptisms, membership, pledging, etc) the departing parishes have vaporized. They are not listed. It’s like they were never there at all. <BR/><BR/>It’s like what happened with the national church’s web site that list parish and diocesan stats ... even though the national chuch lists stats for the last 10 years on each chuch, and places like Falls Church have only been gone for one year ... they have vanished totally. You can see for yourself at http://www.episcopalchurch.org/growth_60791_ENG_HTM.htm. <BR/><BR/>I suppose if you purge any record of the churches from having existed you don’t have to answer tricky questions about numerical decline in the Diocese of Virginia ... when you have to show they are no longer there. If you take the 11 cxhurches out of the previous year’s stats, then there’s no great dip in the stats when you show they have departed ... <BR/><BR/>But to erase their history would seem to be exactly what the Diocese says it’s fighting against, since it has said many times it wants to preserve the legacy of those individual congregations ... I could be wrong, but it sure seems like a funny way of doing it, by erasing any memory of them.RSchllnbrghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16473103729914120630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-15970286227466354602008-01-04T16:41:00.000-05:002008-01-04T16:41:00.000-05:00Anyone know when theCharts get updated? There are...Anyone know when the<A HREF="http://12.0.101.92//" REL="nofollow">Charts</A> get updated? There are a few other parishes I've been keping an eye on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-42345125376001541312008-01-04T16:14:00.000-05:002008-01-04T16:14:00.000-05:00God hears. Ask Him.bbGod hears. Ask Him.<BR/><BR/>bbAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-65377410681174637012008-01-04T15:28:00.000-05:002008-01-04T15:28:00.000-05:00If you blather in a forest and no one hears you, a...If you blather in a forest and no one hears you, are you still blathering?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-50615581037138948682008-01-04T14:59:00.000-05:002008-01-04T14:59:00.000-05:00BB,Any idea who holds the line of credit?The Lakel...BB,<BR/><BR/>Any idea who holds the line of credit?<BR/><BR/>The Lakeland TwoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-77980027929091273882008-01-04T12:29:00.000-05:002008-01-04T12:29:00.000-05:00Alice: TEC has died. Finished Kaput. Dead. Finito....Alice: <BR/>TEC has died. Finished Kaput. Dead. Finito. Kicked the bucket. Passed on. <BR/><BR/>Now, Resurrection?<BR/>Still possible.<BR/>Pray for a miracle.Rolinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13251910335736110149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-79353371157860068612008-01-04T11:54:00.000-05:002008-01-04T11:54:00.000-05:00Baby Blue, this is a fantastic find. Thanks for p...Baby Blue, this is a fantastic find. Thanks for plowing your way through the newsletter.<BR/><BR/>Did you notice the number of resignations/retirements in the list in that newsletter? Is that a normal thing -- that kind of number?<BR/><BR/>Also, did you notice the amusing note from Bishop Lee which consisted of "we're 'orthodox' 'cause we say the word a lot in sentences" lines? ; > ) <BR/><BR/>If that works . . . then I'm a moderate.<BR/><BR/>Cause . . . I'm orthodoxly moderate. <BR/><BR/>Also . . . I'm moderately orthodox. <BR/><BR/>So . . . I'm moderate.<BR/><BR/>Moderately yours,<BR/><BR/>Sarah<BR/><BR/>The ModerateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-15325210885689184152008-01-04T11:22:00.000-05:002008-01-04T11:22:00.000-05:00ECUSA was warned that blatant rejection of the Com...ECUSA was warned that blatant rejection of the Communion standard would lead to division and eventually death for TEC. TEC must repent to live.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-32969078481574076462008-01-04T09:49:00.000-05:002008-01-04T09:49:00.000-05:00It would seem as though DioVA is anticipating an a...It would seem as though DioVA is anticipating an appeal to a fourthcoming judgement. It would also seem as that the remainder of VA-TEC is saying<I>"Nuts to this..</I>Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03516444685469895837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-10699080300032143442008-01-04T09:35:00.000-05:002008-01-04T09:35:00.000-05:00Ooohhh, shadow vestries! It's like the Episcopal c...Ooohhh, shadow vestries! It's like the Episcopal church with a dash of the CIA tossed in, how exciting ;-)Abu Daoudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399746942963002389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-26848595424814631292008-01-04T08:44:00.000-05:002008-01-04T08:44:00.000-05:00...use up the next million?...use up the next million?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-54258669414265198232008-01-04T08:42:00.000-05:002008-01-04T08:42:00.000-05:00And what will they do when theyAnd what will they do when theyRolinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13251910335736110149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-60739823995416508112008-01-03T22:58:00.000-05:002008-01-03T22:58:00.000-05:00Wow... you've got to know it's R-E-A-L-L-Y BAD for...Wow... you've got to know it's R-E-A-L-L-Y BAD for them to come out and admit this kind of stuff in the VA Episcopalian.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07776057299013988717noreply@blogger.com