tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post7893546670984951240..comments2024-03-27T08:46:54.369-04:00Comments on BabyBlueOnline: The Draft StatementAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-29040342006126990602007-09-24T16:14:00.000-04:002007-09-24T16:14:00.000-04:00The most fascinating thing is the obvious and blat...The most fascinating thing is the obvious and blatant character of the Bruno/Beers effort to control the meeting. Clearly the imbecile "statement", if passed, would preempt all the substantive Dar-oriented resolutions, and could thus be declared out of order.<BR/><BR/>But then, subtlety never was a strong point of Bruno, Beers, or Mrs. Schori...<BR/><BR/>It's almost amusing how utterly terrified 815 is that the bishops might actually do something concrete towards a resolution of the situation.Craig Goodrichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08624767388702032189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-6901724441242163262007-09-24T14:56:00.000-04:002007-09-24T14:56:00.000-04:00Garbage. Absolute garbage. The pointy hats might...Garbage. Absolute garbage. The pointy hats might as well say nothing at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-77030473793091028962007-09-24T14:41:00.000-04:002007-09-24T14:41:00.000-04:00OK ... TEC ... SSDDI particularly enjoyed: "While ...OK ... TEC ... SSDD<BR/><BR/>I particularly enjoyed: "While we acknowledge that we are not of one mind in all things, we strive to be of one heart." Because feeling must take precedence over thinking. Experience over tradition. Acceptance (without boundaries or repentance)even trumps truth perhaps?<BR/><BR/>We've heard this before. Not only in the church but in our culture. It was Carl Rogers, the second most influential therapist of the 20th century, who wanted us to be self-actualized. Only to do that we needed to be who we really are ... as determined by what we felt, what we experienced. He said: <BR/><BR/>“The individual increasingly comes to feel that this locus of evaluation lies within himself. Less and less does he look to others for approval or disapproval; for standards to live by; for directions and choices. He recognizes that it rests within himself to choose; that the only question that matters is, ‘Am I living in a way that is deeply satisfying to me, and which truly expresses me?’ ” <BR/><BR/>“The modern man, moreover, is not eager to know in what was he can imitate Christ, but in what way he can live his own individual life, however meager and uninteresting it may be. It is because every form of imitation seems to him deadening and sterile that he rebels against the force of tradition that would hold him to well-trodden ways. All such roads, for him, lead in the wrong direction ... The place of the God has been taken by the wholeness of man."<BR/><BR/>A Rogerian Church? Well, not so far-fetched. It was the basis for most of the training I received at seminary in pastoral care. in the early 80's.<BR/> <BR/>If that's all true though, I'd like to ask where I can sign up to be a not-so-modern man? What if I do actually want to imitate Christ? What church can I attend where that's still in vogue these days?<BR/><BR/>As they say in the papers, "Inquiring minds (not hearts) want to know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-88561249780304962992007-09-24T14:29:00.000-04:002007-09-24T14:29:00.000-04:00Thanks for all the good work this week.One comment...Thanks for all the good work this week.<BR/><BR/>One comment. I find it very interesting that in the interest of devaluing "violence", this statement presumes those who oppose it will be in favor of "violence." This is a tactic I have noted is in use a lot by the Episcopal Church leadership. If any one opposes "full and equal participation" of those who experience homosexual tendencies (meaning unqualified acceptance of their "right" to all the sacraments - ordination and marriage chiefly), we are doing violence to them. This is a stretch, and hardly a theological truth. Yet it seems to be accepted as subtle polemic - and insidious, I think. Ironically, such language does true violence to open and "reconciling" dialogue.<BR/><BR/>Fr. Darin Lovelace<BR/>St. Paul's, Durant, IowaFr. Darin Lovelace+https://www.blogger.com/profile/16791708848229686982noreply@blogger.com