tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post5556597788496795726..comments2024-03-27T08:46:54.369-04:00Comments on BabyBlueOnline: Daughters of the King RevisitedAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-86431319928106230192008-03-10T21:16:00.000-04:002008-03-10T21:16:00.000-04:00Rather than trying to change the subject with your...Rather than trying to change the subject with your anger, let's have a conversation about the facts. We do need to have a look at the books further back than <BR/>2005. It would be best to audit the entire tenure of the employee that embezzeled our funds. Don't you think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-37636621189784360262008-03-02T22:51:00.000-05:002008-03-02T22:51:00.000-05:00Apparently a few progressives were outvoted and th...Apparently a few progressives were outvoted and they are retaliating with venom. It's all quite sad really to see the Episcopal progressives acting in this manner. I feel very sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-6937923950218729332008-03-02T22:32:00.000-05:002008-03-02T22:32:00.000-05:00For one thing, there was an embezzlement within th...For one thing, there was an embezzlement within the National Office of the DOK by an employee, whom resigned. This isn't an alleged embezzlement, but an actual embezzlement. There still has not been audits done to cover the entire tenure of the time that this employee was at the national office. One has to wonder why there is so much resistence to transparency......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-2338850149842480142008-02-29T08:10:00.000-05:002008-02-29T08:10:00.000-05:00Thanks for reading through the materials, Celinda....Thanks for reading through the materials, Celinda. The openness and transparency of the DOK Board is clear. It's so odd that those who pretend to talk inclusion actually walk exclusion - one of the great ironies. May the light of Christ's redeeming love shine into the shadows. And may we all stay awake.<BR/><BR/>Look forward to hearing info about Province IV.<BR/><BR/>bbAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-79584105660201623562008-02-29T00:56:00.000-05:002008-02-29T00:56:00.000-05:00I pored over all the issues of _Royal Cross_ avail...I pored over all the issues of _Royal Cross_ available on-line from 2003 on, and couldn't find any evidence of the "lack of accountability" on the National Board that the Rev. Jo Ann Ford refers to above, nor of secrecy. Heard today that something was happening in Province IV tomorrow, so looked up their website and found a resolution calling for a mediation based on "significant and troubling information passed through the Dioceses of Province IV..." but nothing about what that "significant and troubling information" was. Also couldn't find anything on the Community of Leadership of the DOK website that wasn't openly addressed by the National Board. The vagueness and secrecy seem to be coming from those critical of the National Board, rather than the Board itself.<BR/>Perhaps someone from Province IV can clarify.Celinda Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02347754042014692882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-52420904222170751212008-02-25T08:06:00.000-05:002008-02-25T08:06:00.000-05:00Actually, this conversation is really about those ...Actually, this conversation is really about those whom want to leave the Episcopal Church, but keep the "stuff". That is why our bylaws were "interpreted" (a.k.a. violated). One never interprets bylaws. Changes must be made according to the bylaws. If the DOK were not a multi-million dollar corporation....we would not be having this discussion, in my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-12349254355570604622008-02-22T12:17:00.000-05:002008-02-22T12:17:00.000-05:00DOK did "make a decision" ann . . . and progressiv...DOK did "make a decision" ann . . . and progressive activist Episcopalians don't like that decision.<BR/><BR/>So they are doing push-back. <BR/><BR/>It's pretty simple, and all of us see it for what it is.<BR/><BR/>The cool thing is . . . it makes the progressives look as petty and self-serving and political as they pretend not to be.<BR/><BR/><BR/>SarahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-42462913493893296132008-02-21T23:35:00.000-05:002008-02-21T23:35:00.000-05:00No one is saying that is not how DoK can organize ...No one is saying that is not how DoK can organize - just lifting up the need to talk with each other and make a decision - instead of mean spirited and hardly prayerful back biting and talking about each other.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287169546184325690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-46567898942126556772008-02-21T17:23:00.000-05:002008-02-21T17:23:00.000-05:00The idea that we live separatist lives inside our ...The idea that we live separatist lives inside our chapters in so untrue. We are sisters! That breaks down barriers between Lutherans, and Anglicans, and Episcopalians, and Roman Catholics. In our Order we are sisters united in our love for our King, Jesus. Through prayer and service and evangelism we reach out to share the amazing and life changing love of Jesus to others beyond our ken. We are sisters united the vows we soberly take and in our devotion to prayer, we lift one another in prayer and pray for those in need. We serve as though we are serving our King and our share the Good News that Jesus is risen from the dead and has redeemed us with a weary world torn apart by sin.<BR/><BR/>That is our call. We must resist attempts to segregate us and pray that we may be of one heart and mind through the blood of Jesus Christ our Lord. It is a narrow road, sometimes a hard road.<BR/><BR/>We are Episcopalins, and Lutherans, Anglicans, and Roman Catholics - all Daughters of the King, Jesus Christ. We have been crucified in Christ, it is no longer we who live, but Christ who lives in us. May this be so, for His glory. Amen.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-50930669859552006672008-02-21T16:43:00.000-05:002008-02-21T16:43:00.000-05:00From someone who knows more than the rumor mongers...From someone who knows more than the rumor mongers:<BR/>e: Questions about The Order of Daughters of The King --<BR/><BR/>It would appear that the tensions which have existed within the Order of the Daughters of the King since Triennial 2006 have surfaced as foder for the spin doctors. In reality, many of these tensions are no different that those being faced by other organizations within The Episcopal Church.<BR/><BR/>These involve questions over what happens to those American women whose congregations affiliate with African Provinces. While technically listed as a "Devotional Organization" in the Red Book traditionally those belonging to Daughters have considered themselves as members of an Order for women in The Episcopal Church, and I dare say the majority of clergy in congregations<BR/>where chapters exist have the same understanding. In 2006, for the first time in recent memory the DOK Triennial was held after General Convention in<BR/>another city. Traditionally DOK Triennial has been held the week prior to GC in the GC city to form a prayer support for the Deputies, Bishops, ECW<BR/>delegates and Visitors who would be attending General Convention. This action, combined with a questionable more inclusive interpretation of<BR/>existing by-laws led some Daughters to believe that certain National Council officers and advisors were attempting to distance DOK from The Episcopal Church. Combined with this were some questionable financial transactions made by the current Executive Committee without the full knowlege of the elected National Council.<BR/><BR/>Instead of face to face discussions and the addressing of legitimate questions and concerns, accusations and assumptions have been made,<BR/>information misused or spun to reflect personal agenda, integrity questioned, etc. The truth of the matter is that the strength of the Daughters lies in individual chapters--it is here that the women faithfully live into their vows of prayer and service. For the vast majority of these women what happens outside their chapters is of little consequence. However, there are those of us who strongly believe that the Daughters have to decide if they are an Episcopal organization with independent affiliate<BR/>organizations or one broad inclusive organization with no accountability to any one judicatory. Furthermore they have to decide whether or not to be transparent in all of the decisions of the duly elected National Council, or if certain decisions will be made and executed by the Executive Committee<BR/>alone. It is this type of secrecy and discounting of legitimate concerns which have led to much of the current unrest which is seen throughout the<BR/>country.<BR/><BR/>In Christ,<BR/><BR/>The Rev. Jo Ann T. Ford<BR/>(current DOK member, past Diocesan Chaplain in the Diocese of Kansas and the Diocese of Atlanta, past Provincial Representative to National Council)Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287169546184325690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-59983649158043188042008-02-21T04:10:00.000-05:002008-02-21T04:10:00.000-05:00Better still, guess who comes up on the WHOIS sear...Better still, guess who comes up on the WHOIS search on the new website?<BR/><BR/>Any guesses? Come on? Want to know? Can't work it out?<BR/><BR/>Domain ID: D126268771-LROR<BR/>Domain Name: DOKEPISCOPAL.ORG<BR/>Created On: 23-Jul-2006 07: 19: 56 UTC<BR/>Last Updated On: 05-Aug-2007 00: 26: 48 UTC<BR/>Expiration Date: 23-Jul-2008 07: 19: 56 UTC<BR/>Sponsoring Registrar: TierraNet Inc. dba DomainDiscover (R86-LROR)<BR/>Status: CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED<BR/>Registrant ID: TNTN-0000368170<BR/>Registrant Name: Christine Budzowski<BR/>Registrant Organization: Trinity Web Consulting<BR/>Registrant Street1: 8130 Tuscany Avenue<BR/>Registrant Street2: <BR/>Registrant Street3: <BR/>Registrant City: Playa del Rey<BR/>Registrant State/Province: CA<BR/>Registrant Postal Code: 90293<BR/>Registrant Country: US<BR/>Registrant Phone: +1.3109480056<BR/>Registrant Phone Ext.: <BR/>Registrant FAX: <BR/>Registrant FAX Ext.: <BR/>Registrant Email: christine@trinitywebconsulting.com<BR/><BR/>East Coast Episcopalianism keeps on marching on....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com