tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post4879475335971557361..comments2024-03-27T08:46:54.369-04:00Comments on BabyBlueOnline: Bishop Tom Wright reports that Rowan Williams has sent letters to bishops requesting that they consider "absenting themselves" from LambethAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-29059715121935360012008-04-15T12:42:00.000-04:002008-04-15T12:42:00.000-04:00Ruth Gledhill has been trying to get to the bottom...Ruth Gledhill has been trying to get to the bottom of the syrup all over this waffle. <A HREF="http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2008/04/our-absenting-m.html#more" REL="nofollow">She quotes</A> +Wright's response to the doubt about these letters: <BR/><I>'I can only go by what I was told last week,' he said. 'I know what I heard, I know what I said. If people have changed their mind, they have changed their mind, but I rather doubt it.'</I><BR/><A HREF="http://resurrectioncommunitypersonal.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Br_er Rabbit</A>Rolinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13251910335736110149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-78079614444460948672008-04-15T09:30:00.000-04:002008-04-15T09:30:00.000-04:00Floridian, While Bp. Louttit of Georgia has been a...Floridian, <BR/><BR/>While Bp. Louttit of Georgia has been a moderate Bishop and is now seeing the diocese fall apart, he did not consent to the election of Gene Robinson. He is a Bishop that does not like confrontation so I am sure that is the reason why he has allowed Integrity to have space in the Church in Georgia, also remember that the CiGA has an independent editor and is not done by the Diocesan office. It will be interesting to see who gets elected to replace Bp. Louttit since he has now called for the election of his successor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-32431039319174869322008-04-14T20:46:00.000-04:002008-04-14T20:46:00.000-04:00Jim Naughton is posting over at the Diocese of Was...Jim Naughton is posting over at the Diocese of Washington's Episcopal Cafe that Jim Rosenthal told him "No additional letters have been sent to anyone at this point." <BR/><BR/>We assume he's talking about the letters to the bishops and not that all correspondence has ceased out of the England. <BR/><BR/>It is a curious response - it doesn't deny that there are letters and it doesn't deny that letters are about to be sent. It just denies that - at least from the official office of the Anglican Communion (which is technically not the same as Lambeth Palace) the letters have been posted at the time Jim Rosenthal said that to Jim Naughton.<BR/><BR/>Was there a delay from the time Bishop Wright was led to believe they were in the mail - or did he take a long walk across the carpet only to find it yanked out from under him?<BR/><BR/>Whatever the case, Bishop Wright is being ither engaging in wishful thinking (not exactly a pasttime for a theologian of his caliber), has gone daft under the stress, mistook the word <I>toast</I> for <I>post</I>, or was fibbed to. <BR/><BR/>Or perhaps did Jim R. say that to Jim N even as Jim R. was watching the letters pop out of the printer?<BR/><BR/>We could imagine someone saying to Tom Wright, "oh the letters are toast" rather than "the letters are in the post." In America, "toast" means they are yanked, perhaps like the rug that was under his feet.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Rowan is writing them by hand (there's a job opening in Lambeth for a new secretary and perhaps he's resorting to pulling out the old dusty Oliver and typing them up for Jane to proof?) and then posting them on the way to Vespers?<BR/><BR/>Seriously, we do know that all five of primates who make up the Joint Standing Committee have not been consulted.<BR/><BR/>This might be a good time to call Inspector Linley. Stay tuned.<BR/><BR/>bbAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-91435810859560703332008-04-14T18:52:00.000-04:002008-04-14T18:52:00.000-04:00Another song came to mind: http://www.youtube.com/...Another song came to mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiGPQVUJqq0<BR/><BR/>But alas and alack, they do not seem very sorry after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-64749795543811362942008-04-14T13:33:00.000-04:002008-04-14T13:33:00.000-04:00Bishop Wright is positioning himself for the top s...Bishop Wright is positioning himself for the top spot. But I am profoundly skeptical and will remain so until I see the letters. Even then, I suspect we will be treated to the same gaseous effusion that has characterized so much of both Williams' and Wright's pronouncements on these matters.Dan Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08091073644841770744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-57834771027557720472008-04-14T13:10:00.000-04:002008-04-14T13:10:00.000-04:00Reappraisers had the scoop first for some reason.A...Reappraisers had the scoop first for some reason.<BR/><BR/>And now Episcopal Cafe's The Lead is adding to its reporting that the letters have not been mailed. There's even doubt about who the ABC is concerned to address. Like John-David Schofield as one example, although I'd argue he's already put himself into the category of irregularly consecrated bishops.John B. Chiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18208312356775869565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-9664897267785014732008-04-14T10:33:00.000-04:002008-04-14T10:33:00.000-04:00Well, then there are those primates who have state...Well, then there are those primates who have stated that there is no need to participate in a listening process in their province.<BR/><BR/>Then there are those primates and bishops who have crossed boundaries.<BR/><BR/>Then there are ... sheesh, the list of those uninvited could be longer than those invited!<BR/><BR/>Pray for Rowan.<BR/>Pray for the Church.Padre Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00926481642813679088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-21855347716728319692008-04-14T07:54:00.000-04:002008-04-14T07:54:00.000-04:00Baby Blue, You forgot Louttit, Bishop of GA who h...Baby Blue, You forgot Louttit, Bishop of GA who has been an avid 'listener' and who has given Integrity space in his diocese newsletter. He is definitely a quiet conspirator/consenter to the consecration of Robinson.<BR/><BR/>In addition, Rowan William has already affirmed, embraced and welcomed the new Presiding Bishop of TEc. It is doubtful that he will or has uninvited her.<BR/><BR/>Any actions and words of the ABC at this point irrelevant and despicable. He, with his sharia law, betrayals of the orthodox since 2003 has made himself the enemy of the Cross and Blood and the Church of Jesus Christ. <BR/><BR/>NT Wright is grasping at straws that are already smoking and about to burn with the whole dadburned Canterbury Anglican Barn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-36047635981325823042008-04-14T07:47:00.000-04:002008-04-14T07:47:00.000-04:00It's official, Rowan Williams has finally surpasse...It's official, Rowan Williams has finally surpassed the Waffle output of Aunt Jemima!RMBrutonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15017576806723146013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-608385831772470362008-04-13T22:48:00.000-04:002008-04-13T22:48:00.000-04:00RW's waffling -- and the impotence of Lambeth '98 ...RW's waffling -- and the impotence of Lambeth '98 -- has already made it clear to the "more conservative" of Anglicans that Lambeth is "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."<BR/><BR/>A half-measure -- and that sounds like what this is -- of "requesting" a handful of the most extreme to "absent themselves" won't do it.<BR/><BR/>First of all, of course, the forces of the apostate jihad won't chose to "absent themselves" unless they are told, point blank, that they are un-invited and are met by police forces at the door. At which case they'll go pow-wow with V. G. "I'm not the gay bishop" R., Gandalf, and the reporters on their soap boxes outside the gates of Lambeth.<BR/><BR/>But, more essentially, unless these letters show that RW is actually <I>taking a stand</I> by dis-inviting all those who have actively worked against Windsor (and this list should start with Dr. Schori and work its way down through the majority of PEcUSA's H.O.B.), then this "request" will be viewed as exactly what it probably is -- yet another half-hearted effort, of far too little far too late and done without personal conviction, to save face... without actually changing the situation.<BR/><BR/>In which case (and my money is on the "meaningless handslap" predictions), astute observers will rightly conclude that these letters simply represent nothing but yet another indication of the impotence of Lambeth and the vacuity of "least common denominator" sort of ineffectual "resolutions" which would be agreed upon there.<BR/><BR/>pax,<BR/>LPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-49706527530969643722008-04-13T21:59:00.000-04:002008-04-13T21:59:00.000-04:00The agenda for Lambeth has been described by leade...The agenda for Lambeth has been described by leaders of the Global South as being without substance - a waste of time and resources.<BR/><BR/>Rowan surely needs our prayers, but I get this feeling that it no longer matters who goes to Lambeth. Is it anything more than a catwalk for those who want to be seen there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-81184247582635392302008-04-13T21:50:00.000-04:002008-04-13T21:50:00.000-04:00Wow, bb - you've scooped the other reasserter blog...Wow, bb - you've scooped the other reasserter blogs on this one. Now the speculations begin and we wait to hear the howling.<BR/><BR/>ConnieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com