tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post3472062531106835382..comments2024-03-27T08:46:54.369-04:00Comments on BabyBlueOnline: Read this excellent point-by-point response to the TEC House of Deputies president's recent statement on the Primates' CommuniqueAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-74656635806791935162007-02-25T20:23:00.000-05:002007-02-25T20:23:00.000-05:00RE: The issue is very clear I wish it were BB, but...RE: <I>The issue is very clear</I> <BR/><BR/>I wish it were BB, but the Communiques official interpretation is done by a group of bishop, whom ++KJS gets a say who's on. Kind of like the sub-committee report on WR compliance ... sometimes clarity is obvious to everyone but those with authority ... [sigh] ...Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00261766465382455822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-55417142080295040902007-02-25T20:15:00.000-05:002007-02-25T20:15:00.000-05:00You're absolutely right about what was and was not...You're absolutely right about what was and was not included in the communique, BB... I point out <I>this</I> omission because it is germaine to the issues of sexuality, sexual expression, and the "listening process" -- and the <I>directive</I> of Windsor (if one chooses to call W's recommendations directives).<BR/><BR/>Perhaps, just perhaps, if the Primates were less concerned about how I live my life as a Christian and openly gay man they might have had the energy for robust and spiritually guided conversation (and communique) about Iraq, Afghanistan, Darfur. Such, sadly, was not the case.Padre Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14464349177761679190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-34111193619303769442007-02-25T18:04:00.000-05:002007-02-25T18:04:00.000-05:00Or to borrow from Sinatra,"Doo-bee doo-bee doo. . ...Or to borrow from Sinatra,<BR/>"Doo-bee doo-bee doo. . . "<BR/><BR/>(from Strangers in the Night)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-45880086234024418462007-02-25T11:43:00.000-05:002007-02-25T11:43:00.000-05:00I looked through the Communique and didn't see any...I looked through the Communique and didn't see any mention of the war in Iraq or Afghanistan either. Let's see, I don't see anything about the horror going on in the Sudan or anything about Global Warming either. Wait, let me go get the Communique. Nope, don't see any of those issues on it either. Does that mean it's dismissed? Do we think that the old Obtuse Deflector will work this time? We think not.<BR/><BR/>The issue is very clear - will the TEC bishops do what the Communique requests or will TEC walk apart from the Anglican Communion? Or, to borrow from Hamlet, to be or not to be - that is the question.<BR/><BR/>bbAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-78961591119420861172007-02-25T10:53:00.000-05:002007-02-25T10:53:00.000-05:00Almighty and everlasting God, from whom cometh eve...Almighty and everlasting God, from whom cometh every<BR/>good and perfect gift: Send down upon <I>all Anglican</I> bishops, and<BR/>other clergy, and upon the congregations committed to their<BR/>charge, the healthful Spirit of thy grace: and, that they may<BR/>truly please thee, pour upon them the continual dew of thy<BR/>blessing. Grant this, O Lord, for the honor of our Advocate<BR/>and Mediator, Jesus Christ. AmenKevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00261766465382455822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-87708687807374392122007-02-25T10:50:00.000-05:002007-02-25T10:50:00.000-05:00All the commentaries so far don't surprise me. The...All the commentaries so far don't surprise me. They're saying what they're supposed to be saying, GLBT community is 'who needs the AC,' CANA is saying 'we have some official status and TEC must do so things by 9/30 -- this is good,' ++KJS is saying 'spin, smug, spin,[slight of hand], blur, spin.' <BR/><BR/>This one is most intriguing, at base level I read, 'we don't like the content, but we REALLY are upset the primates didn't recognize us!!! We're important in TEC governance, how disrespectful.' This is the most "loose cannon" I've seen in the mix (including many of the bombastic one {I'm considering the source and thus pretty predictable}) This group is the one ++KJS must court seriously (albeit probably not in open letter but privately). We shall see.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00261766465382455822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-32474326608316338012007-02-25T09:24:00.000-05:002007-02-25T09:24:00.000-05:00I am distressed -- no, appalled -- that no one of ...I am distressed -- no, appalled -- that <I>no one</I> of any authority -- primate, ABC, a provincial synod or house of bishops -- has introduced into the conversation (re: communique and response) the terrible, terrible bill put before the Nigerian government. A bill which would, in fact, disallow the very conversation we are all requested (by Windsor and Dromantine) to have...<BR/><BR/>"U. N. Human Rights experts have spoken out against this bill, noting that it violates the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and have urged the Nigerian government to withdraw it."<BR/><BR/>So much for the "athiestic" (quoted from another blog commenter) United Nations. It seems that sometimes secular morality can move more forcefully than the moral stance of any church.Padre Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14464349177761679190noreply@blogger.com