tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post10068367022856421..comments2024-03-27T08:46:54.369-04:00Comments on BabyBlueOnline: Are People Losing Denominational Identity?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-32009588820448375852011-08-10T21:22:30.731-04:002011-08-10T21:22:30.731-04:00Thanks, AC.
Wouldn't it be loverly if the d...Thanks, AC. <br /><br />Wouldn't it be loverly if the diagram looked less like a tree and more like an upside down funnel? The sin of pride makes men think that they know God's mind better than the next man. That's why the diagram looks like a trunk with myriad sprouting branches. The logical end is billions of churches of one, each one believing that he/she knows best what God wants.<br /><br />We are a divisive, disputatious flock.<br /><br />ScoutAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-52836013412244702342011-08-10T07:43:44.773-04:002011-08-10T07:43:44.773-04:00Scout, there was an error on the chart and I under...Scout, there was an error on the chart and I understand what you are saying about some lines seeming to be in the wrong places. <br /><br />The chart has been changed see here: http://www.request.org.uk/main/churches/denominations/denominations01.htm<br /><br />here is my letter and the publishers response:<br /><br />You have an error in your denominations chart found here:<br />http://www.request.org.uk/main/churches/denominations/denominations01.htm<br /><br />The trunk (base of the tree) is not Roman Catholic. The Roman church <br />was just one of 5 major churches in Christendom. The others were <br />Alexandria, Jerusalem, Antioch, and Constantinople.<br /><br />The Great Schism is when the Roman Church, which became known as the Roman Catholic church broke away from the other four churches (which became known as Orthodox). So the base would be early Christianity, or perhaps Orthodox, but certainly not Roman Catholic as the majority of those in the early church would NEVER have identified themselves as Roman Christians.<br /><br /><br />It would seem that your chart is at best from ecclesiastical <br />ignorance, at worst and an attempt to rewrite history. This is a <br />correction you really should make.<br /><br />Dear<br /><br />We are grateful for your helpful e-mail. The diagram has now been amended.<br />As it is designed for primary school children there is obviously a limit to<br />the amount of detail that it can show! Thank-you for getting in touch.<br /><br />Yours,<br /><br />Mike StrangeAnam Carahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960986859370967282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-86979618470372745552011-08-06T06:46:02.832-04:002011-08-06T06:46:02.832-04:00By the way, the chart is fascinating. My first re...By the way, the chart is fascinating. My first reaction was that some of the lines were in the wrong places, but, on reflection, I understand why they are the way they are. <br /><br />ScoutAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-64269133085502547872011-08-05T19:28:44.308-04:002011-08-05T19:28:44.308-04:00Christians can be a fractious lot, without doubt. ...Christians can be a fractious lot, without doubt. It is a great shame how centrifugal we tend to be with one another when one senses that God's wish for us is that we be more centripetal around the Trinity. <br /><br />ScoutAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-17104638267093167982011-08-05T07:07:29.856-04:002011-08-05T07:07:29.856-04:00So when is a branch not a schism? A branch is not ...So when is a branch not a schism? A branch is not a schism only when the three bonds of unity are preserved: unity of faith, unity of sacraments, and unity of government.7 In the Catechism schism is defined as “the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”8 Schism always reduces to ‘schism from,’ because with a principium unitatis, ‘schism within’ can only continue as ‘schism from.’ <br />~from http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2009/07/branches-or-schisms/ (where I found your diagaram)<br /><br />If this (the second sentence which defines) is the definition of schism vs. branch, then certainly Truro is in Schism with Rome, as are most other Protestants who do not accept the authority of the Pope or Roman doctrines. <br /><br />The question, is Truro's case a branch or schism with TEC or the Anglican Communion a different question. Do you have unity of faith? (Define faith. Are you only referring to the creed?) Do you have unity of sacraments? Do you have unity of government? <br /><br />I think I would call it schism with TEC but branch of Anglican Communion - which really makes it TEC the one is schism.<br /><br />If you are interested in a history of branches or schisms I suggest the book Heterodoxy and Orthodoxy by Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick which goes through history and shows how since the great schism each group developed as a response to a previous group. It helps one understand not so much WHAT other churches believe as WHY they believe.Anam Carahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960986859370967282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23327221.post-22501684537849097562011-08-05T06:34:41.360-04:002011-08-05T06:34:41.360-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anam Carahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960986859370967282noreply@blogger.com